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Can't Play Video After Render It in Vegas Pro 14 - yostdoself

Sony Vegas doesn't allow 1080p @60fps

Feb 25, 2013

Hey guys,

I have a problem with my Sony Vegas Pro 11. When I open a new project I can set the properties to 1080p 60fps without any problems. But as soon as I want to render my video Vegas doesn't want to render it with 60fps even when I customize the settings. The only option I can choose is 720p 60fps.

I hope you can help me

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Arlene • Senior Member • Posts: 1,076

I 'd like to know the fix to this also-Sony Vegas doesn't allow 1080p @60fps

densiejagen wrote:

Hey guys,

I have a problem with my Sony Vegas Pro 11. When I open a new project I can set the properties to 1080p 60fps without any problems. But as soon as I want to render my video Vegas doesn't want to render it with 60fps even when I customize the settings. The only option I can choose is 720p 60fps.

I hope you can help me

Sean Nelson

Re: Sony Vegas doesn't allow 1080p @60fps

I can't speak to the specifics of how you choose your export settings in Vegas Pro.   But I can tell you that in Adobe Premiere Pro you can't select 1080p60 output unless you've got the appropriate "Profile" and "Level" settings selected in the H.264 export dialogue box.   These settings dictate what the maximum resolutions and frame rates are so that players which support the specified profile/level will be guaranteed to be capable of playing video stream.

Ahender • Senior Member • Posts: 1,554

Re: Sony Vegas doesn't allow 1080p @60fps

densiejagen wrote:

Hey guys,

I have a problem with my Sony Vegas Pro 11. When I open a new project I can set the properties to 1080p 60fps without any problems. But as soon as I want to render my video Vegas doesn't want to render it with 60fps even when I customize the settings. The only option I can choose is 720p 60fps.

I hope you can help me

Try asking your question here:

http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/what-happens-vegas/

Edit:

Just found a post similar to yours on the above website and it was never answered.

Also, try Sony Tablet 1080p template.

Ahender • Senior Member • Posts: 1,554

Re: Sony Vegas doesn't allow 1080p @60fps

In reply to Ahender • Feb 25, 2013

Or try this:

render as>Save as type>SonyAVC/MVC as a mp4 file HD 1920x1080-60p

Sony Vegas doesn't allow 1080p @60fps

Sean Nelson wrote:

I can't speak to the specifics of how you choose your export settings in Vegas Pro. But I can tell you that in Adobe Premiere Pro you can't select 1080p60 output unless you've got the appropriate "Profile" and "Level" settings selected in the H.264 export dialogue box. These settings dictate what the maximum resolutions and frame rates are so that players which support the specified profile/level will be guaranteed to be capable of playing video stream.

I guess Sony's Vegas Pro must have merged with Adobe's Premiere Pro or something. Cool, finally.

Markr041 • Veteran Member • Posts: 9,148

Yes, Sony Vegas does allow 1080p @60fps

densiejagen wrote:

Hey guys,

I have a problem with my Sony Vegas Pro 11. When I open a new project I can set the properties to 1080p 60fps without any problems. But as soon as I want to render my video Vegas doesn't want to render it with 60fps even when I customize the settings. The only option I can choose is 720p 60fps.

I hope you can help me

Render as>Save as type>SonyAVC/MVC:

then customize:

Choose HD 1920x1080, CABAC, prog ressive scan, 59.940 frame rate, then go over to the bottom 'system' tab where you can choose the container: mp4 (with audio AAC) or m2ts (with audio AC3).

And you now can render a 108060p file.

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Re: Yes, Sony Vegas does allow 1080p @60fps

In reply to Markr041 • Mar 6, 2013

Markr041 wrote:

Render as>Save as type>SonyAVC/MVC:

then customize:

Choose HD 1920x1080, CABAC, prog ressive scan, 59.940 frame rate, then go over to the bottom 'system' tab where you can choose the container: mp4 (with audio AAC) or m2ts (with audio AC3).

And you now can render a 108060p file.

Sounds a bit complicated, frankly.

How about doing it in NTSC versus PAL, which way is it easier, I wonder?

Sean Nelson

Re: Sony Vegas doesn't allow 1080p @60fps

Francis Carver wrote:

Sean Nelson wrote:

I can't speak to the specifics of how you choose your export settings in Vegas Pro. But I can tell you that in Adobe Premiere Pro you can't select 1080p60 output unless you've got the appropriate "Profile" and "Level" settings selected in the H.264 export dialogue box.

I guess Sony's Vegas Pro must have merged with Adobe's Premiere Pro or something. Cool, finally.

I realize that you're being deliberately obtuse, but to clarify: my point was that any video editor which is compliant with standards may not allow you to export 1080p60 if you have configured it's output options properly.

Sean Nelson

Re: Yes, Sony Vegas does allow 1080p @60fps

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Francis Carver wrote:

How about doing it in NTSC versus PAL, which way is it easier, I wonder?

NTSC and PAL are SD broadcast standards - neither one is compatible with HD video.  If you choose NTSC- or PAL-compatible output formats then you'll be limiting yourself to DVD-quality video at best.

Markr041 • Veteran Member • Posts: 9,148

Re: Yes, Sony Vegas does allow 1080p @60fps

Francis Carver wrote:

Markr041 wrote:

Render as>Save as type>SonyAVC/MVC:

then customize:

Choose HD 1920x1080, CABAC, prog ressive scan, 59.940 frame rate, then go over to the bottom 'system' tab where you can choose the container: mp4 (with audio AAC) or m2ts (with audio AC3).

And you now can render a 108060p file.

Sounds a bit complicated, frankly.

How about doing it in NTSC versus PAL, which way is it easier, I wonder?

It is complicated when you don't understand video standards.

For PAL-land (as oopposed to PAL, which is an SD standard), it is just

Choose HD 1920x1080, CABAC, prog ressive scan, 50.0 frame rate, then go over to the bottom 'system' tab where you can choose the container: mp4 (with audio AAC) or m2ts (with audio AC3).

I can repeat this if you did not get it the first time.

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NTSC = DVD and PAL= Blu-ray, right?

Sean Nelson wrote:

NTSC and PAL are SD broadcast standards - neither one is compatible with HD video. If you choose NTSC- or PAL-compatible output formats then you'll be limiting yourself to DVD-quality video at best.

Wow, considering that these broadcast standards are still being offered in brand new cameras and stuff by Nikon, JVC, and others, I am not too worried.

BTW, what do they call the new PAL standard -- is that EURO €?

Best I could figure then, NTSC is DVD quality, and PAL is Blu-ray, right? Heck, I believe I saw some DVDs that looked better than Blu-rays.

When did PAL become the € Standard?

In reply to Markr041 • Mar 7, 2013

Markr041 wrote:

It is complicated when you don't understand video standards.

Okay, so that must make three of us then, best I could figure. I feel sorry for the Europeans, in particular. They used to have PAL -- now, they've got nothing but the €? Last I heard, that is not doing all that good, either.

For PAL-land (as oopposed to PAL, which is an SD standard)

Wow, now that is good to know, Mark. The is simplePAL, and then there is PAL-LAND -- it is slightly to the west of it, isn't it?

Markr041 • Veteran Member • Posts: 9,148

Re: NTSC = DVD and PAL= Blu-ray, right? Wrong.

Mr. Carver says: "Best I could figure then, NTSC is DVD quality, and PAL is Blu-ray, right?"

You are kidding, right? NTSC and PAL are SD standards for US and elsewhere. Since DVD's are SD, PAL and NTSC refer to them.

PAL and NTSC are completely irrelevant to HD and therefore to commercial blurays, which are HD, as you have been told over and over again. Your ignorance is incredible.

Commercial blurays can be played in any country (except there are Region codes), and are typically 108024p. 

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Sean Nelson

Re: NTSC = DVD and PAL= Blu-ray, right?

Francis Carver wrote:

Sean Nelson wrote:

NTSC and PAL are SD broadcast standards

BTW, what do they call the new PAL standard -- is that EURO €?

The European version of the HD broadcast standard (i.e., their version of North America's "ATSC") is called DVB ("Digital Video Broadcasting").  See this Wikipedia article.

PAL, NTSC, ATSC and DVB are all broadcast standards, and as such they specify the radio frequencies to be used, the modulation techniques, error correction formats, etc.   The digital standards (ATSC and DVB) basically provide a medium over which bits can be delivered - the over-the-air equivalent of an Ethernet cable.   Encoding actual video information is done in higher protocol layers, typically by defining a transport stream format and choosing a codec (such as  MPEG-2 or H.264 for digital broadcasts).

Sean Nelson

Re: NTSC = DVD and PAL= Blu-ray, right? Wrong.

In reply to Markr041 • Mar 7, 2013

Markr041 wrote:

PAL and NTSC are completely irrelevant to HD and therefore to commercial blurays, which are HD

I think that a lot of the confusion comes from from the fact that many cameras still use PAL and NTSC as terms to refer to 25/50 vs. 30/60 frame rates.   For example I've just been looking at the instruction manual for the GoPro Hero 3 cameras, and they have a setup option which allows you to switch between "NTSC" and "PAL" modes.   What it's really doing is letting you choose between the two alternate sets of frame rates - the choice has nothing whatsoever to do with resolution, which controlled via a different setup option.

It's not a correct use of the term, but other than "PAL" and "NTSC", I don't know of any other easy generic term to refer to these frame rates (or the regions in which they apply).   So these terms are getting entrenched in the lexicon of the industry as a shortcut for frame rates.

But in a video editor, if you choose an output format that's labelled "PAL" or "NTSC", you're certainly not going to get HD video at 60p, which is what the OP was trying to do.

Markr041 • Veteran Member • Posts: 9,148

Re: NTSC = DVD and PAL= Blu-ray, right?

Sean Nelson wrote:

Francis Carver wrote:

Sean Nelson wrote:

NTSC and PAL are SD broadcast standards

BTW, what do they call the new PAL standard -- is that EURO €?

The European version of the HD broadcast standard (i.e., their version of North America's "ATSC") is called DVB ("Digital Video Broadcasting"). See this Wikipedia article.

PAL, NTSC, ATSC and DVB are all broadcast standards, and as such they specify the radio frequencies to be used, the modulation techniques, error correction formats, etc. The digital standards (ATSC and DVB) basically provide a medium over which bits can be delivered - the over-the-air equivalent of an Ethernet cable. Encoding actual video information is done in higher protocol layers, typically by defining a transport stream format and choosing a codec (such as MPEG-2 or H.264 for digital broadcasts).

Yes, that is useful. And, relatedly, ATSC and DVB have nothing to do with what cameras or camorders shoot.

On the PAL and NTSC confusion: in Sony Vegas, 59.950 frame rates are labelled 'NTSC' and 50.00 fps is labelled 'PAL'.

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No standard cameras & camcorders; NTSC vs PAL continues

In reply to Markr041 • Mar 7, 2013

Markr041 wrote:

ATSC and DVB have nothing to do with what cameras or camorders shoot.

Wow, really? let me see now.... okay, so if a cameras does not record video in NTSC and does not record video in PAL and also does not even record video in ATSC -- just what type of television signal or video standard does a camera or camcorder record video in, Mark? Would it be the newfangled EURO € Standard then, perhaps?

On the PAL and NTSC confusion: in Sony Vegas, 59.950 frame rates are labelled 'NTSC' and 50.00 fps is labelled 'PAL'.

Wow, apparentlyyou are still confused about NTSC versus PAL, huh? Gee-whiz, Mark.... so sorry to hear that. It's a bona-fide toughie, that much is true, you know. One is 60 and the other one is 50 -- or is it the other way around now?

Marko-boingo

In reply to Markr041 • Mar 7, 2013

Markr041 wrote:

NTSC and PAL are SD standards for US and elsewhere. Since DVD's are SD, PAL and NTSC refer to them.

Is that the official position of the United Nations, too?

PAL and NTSC are completely irrelevant to HD and therefore to commercial blurays, which are HD, as you have been told over and over again. Your ignorance is incredible.

Well, I would make a slight correction to the above Mark-o-thesis: if you purchase a Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX7 camera in North America -- PAL is gonna be completely irrelevant to you.

Similarly, if you should purchase a Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX7 camera in Europe -- NTSC is gonna be completely irrelevant to you.

Furthermore, whether you purchase a Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX7 camera in North America OR in Europe OR in fact anywhere else on this here planet -- 24p / 24 fps video recording is gonna be completely irrelevant to you, too.

It's a hard one to swallow, I know.

Commercial blurays can be played in any country (except there are Region codes), and are typically 108024p. 

Great news, Mark -- so how come then that thePanasonic Lumix DMC-LX7 camera cannot even record something as dirt simple as 1080p24 video, hmmm?

I'm a-waiting....

ATSC into SMPTE as DVB into EBU (7 March 2013 Edition)

Sean Nelson wrote:

The European version of the HD broadcast standard (i.e., their version of North America's "ATSC") is called DVB ("Digital Video Broadcasting"). See this Wikipedia article.

PAL, NTSC, ATSC and DVB are all broadcast standards, and as such they specify the radio frequencies to be used, the modulation techniques, error correction formats, etc. The digital standards (ATSC and DVB) basically provide a medium over which bits can be delivered - the over-the-air equivalent of an Ethernet cable. Encoding actual video information is done in higher protocol layers, typically by defining a transport stream format and choosing a codec (such as MPEG-2 or H.264 for digital broadcasts).

Okay, fair enough, Sean, so I suppose that was the long version. And now, to cut to the chase --North America has got SMPTE's NTSC and SMPTE's 72p & 1080i ATSC, whereas Europe has got PAL and EBU's 50p DVB television standards.

That is what I have been preaching here since Noah's Ark had hit the rocks. Thank you, Sean & thank you, Wikipedia.

As to the rest of the Planet Earth -- I suppose they get whatever television system they can get, huh?

Now, as to the image quality attainable between 720p and 1080i -- it depends whom you ask. Clearly, for fast actions stuff like sports coverage, 720p is the winner. For dramatic shows with less severe subject and camera motion -- the 1080-line pixel resolution of 1080i triumphs.

Nobody I know besides our mutual good friend Mark is broadcasting in 1080p60 around these here parts, however.

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